A Look at the Effects of ‘brexit’ in France

I was also hoping to relocate in the south of France but with brexit Unless we stay in the single market it looks like it could be more hassle than its worth

I have yet to hear a compelling argument to remain. I encourage positive and reasoned debate in this matter as I believe it to be the single most important decision for our nation / country. I would be happy to receive your 1000 good reasons why the UK will be "stronger in". I started by stating my understanding of the underlying issue for those who want to leave, that "democracy is worth defending at any cost" because without democracy we are effectively living in a totalitarian state. This runs contrary to British values as has been demonstrated by a constitution that has formed the basis of every subsequent modern democracy.

There has been far to much focus on the negative aspects of a vote to leave the UK. I have been involved in online discussion in various forums and asked for the views of many different people. It is not in the interest of any European nation / state to deliberately cause problems. The main argument supporting the vote to leave is currently the supremacy of EU law over domestic national law and the erosion of national sovereignty (democracy) Nobody has made a successful argument for the EU being democratic and informed majority opinion is that Our right to elect our government and hold them accountable for decisions they make by proxy on behalf of the people is worth preserving at any price. The UK constitution is like no other in the world and affords certain protections for the individual No person is above the law (including the sovereign) No taxation without representation. In essence our right to hold politicians accountable and withhold taxes or remove them from power peacefully if they are not acting in the interest of the people. Successive governments have handed over more control over our national sovereignty with each Treaty signed. Starting with the Treaty of Rome in 1973. Edward Heath hid the "political union" element of the deal from the British people but it is clear that he knew what he was doing at the time. The European Communities Act (1972) was the instrument whereby the UK was able to join the European Union. Without it signing the Treaty of Rome would have been an act of Sedition and Treason. John Major who was responsible for the final betrayal... the Mastrict Treaty - key to the creation of the Single Market and the common currency the Euro. It's official title was "The Treaty on European Union". All the treaties before this had been about trade and related issues. European government was created by Mastrict it effected who governed and how. MEPs have also stated that the EU is not trying to hide it's intentions and plans going forward The leaders are saying they want a bigger, better, stronger EU and their plan for doing this? They want : More integration (financial and political) Common Taxes Common Foreign Policy Common Army Common Police force Just do an image search for French or German police, they look more like paramilitary forces than a Police force British people would recognise. Our police force and soldiers serve Her Majesty the Queen and through her as our head of State the British people. Who would be served by a Common Police force and Common Army? Who would hold them to account? Not the UK our voice represents less that 9% of the vote. On the 72 occasions Britain has opposed EU laws and regulations they have been defeated 72 times. In the European Court of Justice we have lost 101 times and won only 30 times a failure rate of 77% Since David Cameron became prime minister we have lost 80% Don't be taken in by the non-deal Cameron came back from Brussels with - Cameron's deal to secure a "Red Card" for Britain in the UK, the right to oppose if 14 other member states could be persuaded (quickly enough) to support the UK's position. But in order to get this he had to give up one of Britain's few remaining vetos, Britain's right to give or withhold consent to future treaties which convert the Eurozone block into a European Superstate. Leaving us no option but to adopt all future laws and regulations however detrimental to Britian's interests. The UK would be very vulnerable if we stay in the EU on those terms. There would effectively be no turning back Ever. Most leave supporters consider this the final nail in the coffin for democracy. The real driving force behind the EU has been the cowardice and opportunism of national governments - not the sinister ambitions of Brussels or Berlin. National political leaders who felt more and more detached from their own population built this post sovereign institution they could effectively hide in. The great benefit of the EU for these isolated governments is that it allowed them to pursue politics in and entirely insulated fashion. It allowed them to outsource political authority to an external entity without being held accountable or having to worry about annoying things like the people. I apologize for the long post but feel this sums up the core component of the leave position here in the UK.

What a shame its all about self self self, not about saving our country and our history.